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PostSubject: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 23, 2008 12:17 am

TO

BE

OR

NOT

TO

BE

THAT'S

THE

QUESTION!
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 23, 2008 7:45 pm

what's the question?
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 23, 2008 9:12 pm

a famous shakespeare quote: to be or not to be that is the question. It is actually a quote from this genious book "hamlet" (prince of danmark). third part of the book, first scene: hamlet starts his monogoe with this sentence. He considders his own fear of his actions in this monologe because he is afraid of death. Here the full version.


To be or not to be, that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing, end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, ’tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish’d. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover’d country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action. – Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember’d.

P.S.: no i didnt copy it, i wrote it all myself I love you cause school made me a real expert about Shakespeare since we had to read maybe 100 books of him. I like him, but i think he is hard to understand. Everyone has his idle and unbrokens one is shakespeare i guess? mine is lord byron...and his twisted personality.

So guess you are all bored to death...but i really liked the topic.
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 24, 2008 2:09 am

Thank you for opening the duscission about shakespeare and his famous and mostly un understoodable style,well..shakespeare is complicated,mostly no one can end one of his poems with full understanding everyword,i guess that's the brilliant idea about it,his twisted personality,his complexive vocabulary,his magical and yet unike style always brings attention.For myself,this man has almost created a new world of poetry,an agressive,brave,-even sometimes unpolite-one.He skiped the simplisity of the words to find deeper meanings.Of course i'm not a great writer but mostly when i wanna write i focus on bringing the scene picture infront of the reader's inner eye,therefore the meaning could be easily understood and even lived. This way i myself can reach my point and achieve people's need to be simply understood.Shakespeare was a great author and a one of a kind poet..he choosed not to be understood but mostly that was the main secret for his astonishing talent.But on the other hand,many poets lived in shakespeare's time and made their own path across the history of poems..like william blake,william wordsworth, anthony hope(he wrote the perfect prisoner of zenda),lord byron ... etc.
Writting is not just about someone's need to say what he feels but it's a need to communicate with other humans by the bless of words and to achieve a certain thought or attitude in the reader's mind.
I hope we still communicate alot and stop being silent all the time
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 24, 2008 11:04 am

To be, or not to be, that is the question:

If you follow Hamlet's speech carefully, you'll notice that his notions of "being" and "not being" are rather complex. He doesn't simply ask whether life or death is preferable; it's hard to clearly distinguish the two—"being" comes to look a lot like "not being," and vice versa. To be, in Hamlet's eyes, is a passive state, to "suffer" outrageous fortune's blows, while not being is the action of opposing those blows. Living is, in effect, a kind of slow death, a submission to fortune's power. On the other hand, death is initiated by a life of action, rushing armed against a sea of troubles a pretty hopeless project, if you think about it.

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that i didn't learn about him
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 24, 2008 1:21 pm

to be or not to be is a simple question brought out by hamlet , in his point of view being is just so close to NOT BEING so rather he choosed one of the choices or not he'll suffer just the same.The beauty of this sentence is just about the equality of meaning between being and not being,if he lived he'd suffer a sea of trouble and non-ending pain and hopelessness and his outrageous fortunewhile if he died that would be a quick and easy pain ending heart-ache and broken dreams.The sentence is simple but it brings many complexive meanings differ from one person to another.Some may think to be or not to be is all about the wonder of humanity wether to live or not seing not so huge difference between both
i adore this speech of hamlet's especially the following:
To be or not to be, that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing, end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
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PostSubject: Re: SHAKESPEARE   SHAKESPEARE I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 25, 2008 5:34 pm

I am not so sure if Shakespeare really didnt want to be not understood or misunderstood... I think his language belongs to the time he lived in and the so called Elizabethan time of lyricism and poetry.

Well, that I learn so much about Shakespeare has to do with the german school-system: I go to school 15 years of my life... I guess it is enough time to learn about every single crazy person that did something stupid or amazing in the past Rolling Eyes I wont cry... school is over and collage soon will be bounce
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